State Farm Putting Profits Before People In Florida

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Posted by Eddie FarahJanuary 31, 2009 11:34 PM

State Farm property insurance wants to leave Florida for greener pastures.

After major hurricanes in 2004 and 2005, State Farm Florida, a subsidiary of the insurance giant, says it will phase out offering property insurance to 1.2 million property owners within two years.

There is just not enough money to be made in the state, says the giant which claims its losing about $20 million a month. However State Farm wants to keep offering auto insurance, life and health, since it is not having a problem staying afloat with those policies.

While Gov. Charlie Crist says no one will miss them because they charge about the highest rates in the state, but the Governor gets to live in the Governor's mansion and doesnt have to buy property insurance. For the rest of us, there will be one less competitor to keep rates down. BTW- the insurer of last resort, Citizens, set up and supported by the state, will soon have a rate freeze lifted.

Which of us can afford to pay MORE for insurance these days? These precarious times is no time for business as usual - profits before people - because too many people are hurting.

Remember- this is the insurance industry, one of the most lucrative industries. State Farm paid its chairman an 82 percent raise in 2007 amounting to more than $5 million.

And what about saving for a rainy day? In a good year, most of us look to the future and tuck extra money away. The absence of any major catastrophes helped State Farm generate a record $5.32 billion profit in 2006.

But the state insurance commissioner might say State Farm must sell all types of insurance or none in the state. Also the legislature might put the brakes on the move, allowing insurers to drop a limited number of customers every year.

Is there any wonder why most Floridians don’t feel too sorry for State Farm?

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Jeff McCollum
Posted by Jeff McCollum
February 01, 2009 2:49 PM

Grettings--

Want to let your readers know I work for State Farm--up at the Corporate office in Illinois. I'll not be your most popular blogger, I think.

I don't want to insult anyone's intelligence, I'm sure you are more than aware of the incredible challenges the insurance industry faces in your state. But I ask you to consider the business reality that comes with offering property insurance in Florida. It's really not a matter of State Farm Florida making profit, it's about having the money there for when the next big storm hits. Even with no major hurricane losses the last two seasons, State Farm Florida is still severely in the red.

There is a lot of misinformation out there. I encourage you to go to our website for the facts.

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Jeff McCollum
State Farm Insurance

Darren Wilson
Posted by Darren Wilson
February 01, 2009 2:52 PM

Thanks for your comments, Jeff. The more dialogue, disclosure, and discussion we have, the sooner we will get down to what's right and fair.

AmericanPatriot
Posted by AmericanPatriot
February 01, 2009 3:52 PM

State Farm has been more than patient with the State of Florida despite suffering huge losses in Florida over the past five years. Insurance companies are not non-profit organizations. If they do not make money, they have no reason whatsoever to offer coverages to anyone. Insurance pricing is based on risk, actuarial factors, and actual past losses. The risks in Florida are absolutely huge and the present rates for homeowner policies are woefully insufficient to cover these risks.

Many companies have shut down writing homeowners coverage in the State of Florida for the simple reason that losses and future risks far outweigh any potential for profitable sound business operations. The State Farm operating company in Florida is a separate entity from the national State Farm corporation. It has sustained a net loss of $750 million from prior claims which it has been unable to pay back to its parent due to inadequate rates. For every $1 taken in on premiums by State Farm they are paying out $1.21 in claims. Would any sane person take $1 dollar and give out $1.21 to anyone? Obviously not.

The State of Flordia has been outright hostile to insurance companies who have lost a great deal of money (billions) in the State, and now will simply shut down. State Farm will be one of the first major companies to exit and many others will follow. No insurance company will stay and write coverages on residential property at a loss. The governor is an utter moron and he will get exactly what he deserves - no insurance at any price in the State if he and the legislators keep up their stupid attacks on insurance companies.

This entire issue can be simply solved by allowing insurance companies to charge whatever they deem appropriate and letting the market decide which companies get the business. In the absence of that common sense approach, look for many more companies to just pull the plug on Florida.

GingerL
Posted by GingerL
February 02, 2009 6:33 AM

In my eyes, State Farm is doing exactly what they say they are about, being there for the customer. If your home is destroyed by a covered loss, it sounds like they want to pay the claim. If they are losing money and can't keep their reserves high enough to cover the claims, wouldn't the prudent thing to do be to refuse to write something they can't cover? Looking at this situation from a profit standpoint is one thing, but let's consider what would happen should they continue to write risks they can't cover. It just doesn't make sense. Personally, I'm considering moving out of the area since I'm not convinced there's too many companies that can make the promise to me they can cover me when I need it.

jak
Posted by jak
February 02, 2009 9:19 AM

I notice no one has addressed the huge profits the industry makes and the CEO salaries, among the highest for industry. And what about taking money from those profitable years and saving it for the leaner times. Those in the industry- your information is good, but please tell us about how the insurance industry take premiums and invests them in the market as a real source of profit. What happens when the market goes down? Do the premiums go up? Thanks for any insider info here....

Darren Wilson
Posted by Darren Wilson
February 02, 2009 10:14 AM

That's a good point, Jane, and exactly what I was about to post. Let's not let the insurance companies off because they are "crying poor" all of a sudden. Let's down to the actual numbers and find out where all the money went. I think that's the point of FL Insurance Commissioner Kevin McCarty's investigations into where the money goes. More ...

Someone explain to me how homeowners insurers are losing money after a couple of quiet storm seasons. Maybe someone can explain how reinsurance works better than I can? It sounds like a financial shell game to me. State Farm claims that "State Farm entity A" is going broke because it "can't charge enough" but it pays a fortune to "State Farm entity B" for reinsurance.

Frankly, if they have to charge more than everyone else to stay in business in Florida, either they spend too much on reinsurance, administration & marketing, or their actuaries are doing a poor job. If that's true, their departure should be a good thing.

All of these arguments are meaningless without a real financial analysis. We might as well be guessing how much gas is in the tank of a car by looking at it from the outside.

But let's not forget the old saying "Insurance companies are where banks go to borrow money." And let's not forget insurance company AIG, who cried poor so they could get tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to spend on facials, manicures, and rub downs at lavish resorts.

InjuryGroup
Posted by InjuryGroup
February 06, 2009 1:40 AM

Unfortunately, home owners insurance is a business. They have come to the conclusion that there is better money to be made elsewhere.

C Kirby
Posted by C Kirby
February 08, 2009 1:09 PM

Since California has many more disasters than Florida, how has State Farm managed to stay in that state. I haven't heard of you pulling out of California, South Carolina, Lousianna, Texes, or any states with a great amount of tornadoes. This is not the only state that has disasters. I don't recall you're paying out a lot in New Orleans. Is that because the goverment had to step in, thanks to the old tax payer.

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